If this comes off as a complete rant, so be it. I’m upset. I’m angry. Mostly, just when you thought elected public officials couldn’t get any worse, they do this. And I bet you if you look at their resumes, they were responsible for the construction of this child playground slide.
North Carolina Lawmakers Creation
What am I upset about? Lawmakers in North Carolina are following the lead of those in New York and Rhode Island by instituting an affiliate tax or otherwise known as the “Amazon Tax”. What is it? Basically, if you are an affiliate, the merchant has to collect sales tax on the sale and submit it to the state where you are a resident. Mind you, not where the purchaser of the product lives, but you, as the affiliate. If that sounds stupid and idiotic, you’d be right.
Now, if you were the merchant, what would you do? Would you collect the sales taxes and cause extra burdens to be on your company? I wouldn’t either. The easier solution? Terminate the relationship with every affiliate in those states. And now, it is happening in my home state of North Carolina. I have already had seven affiliate relationships terminated which account for over 40% of our revenues. That’s significant – especially in this economy.
I know I will find a solution, even if it means moving my company out of this state. But while finding a solution for my business is my chief concern, I am also concerned that states tend to be copycats and this can soon spread to all states. If you’re an affiliate, this can literally crush your business overnight.
The bill goes before the governor on July 15th. The best way to stop this spread of “idiot politics” is to stop it from being passed in North Carolina. If it fails, other states may drop interest in the tax.
What can you do?
Two things:
1) Sign this online petition. At the time of this writing there were 832 signers. We need a lot more to get their attention.
2) Even if you are NOT a resident of North Carolina, you can fill out this form to be delivered to the governor’s office. On the drop down option for the Subject, choose Taxes & Revenue. Be direct, to the point, but most of all professional.
Forward this post to as many people as you can. I didn’t take this to seriously last month when it was discussed, but now I face reality by having my income severely reduced. Take a few minutes of your day to support this to avoid going through what I am right now.
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Many people wonder what they can do to stop this madness in government. My buddy over at freedomspeaks.com has solved this problem. Once you sign up for an account it looks up all of your elected politicians. Then you can click a button write them all a letter and hit send. It emails/faxes you letter to all of you elected officials in just a few click.
As Dickens said, “the law is an idiot.”
This is why companies relocate outside the US to business-friendly places like Malaysia, Singapore, Thailand, China, Panama, and the like.
It’s going to get worse. Much worse. There are predictions of complete collapse of commercial real estate — 11 of Trump’s companies are seeking chapter 11. Dollar will be worth nothing. Tax riots, food riots. Federal Reserve just keeps printing money like there’s no tomorrow. Dollar’s gonna tank. Followed by Euro. Some banks in Germany are leveraged 1:114 — unbelievable. Fasten your seat belts. I could be like never in the history of mankind. And the amount of money they hope to reap from affiliates? Drop in a bucket of national debt of some 12 trillion (some say more like 57 trillion).
This is exactly why we need to move to the FairTax system. You keep what you earn and are only taxed on what you consume. The states and federal government will collect more money and we’ll pay less taxes. Best of all there is no where for anyone to hide from taxes, everyone pays their fair share: off shore companies, illegal immigrants, drug dealers, etc. Citizens will get much more transparency to government and be able to see if they’re getting their fair share since everyone is paying the same 23% tax.
This progressive income tax system is ridiculous, the more they tax under this system the less incentive people have to save and invest. Worse of all it encourages debt.
The big issue in America isn’t a national health care plan, its the meteor known as Social Security that setting to hit us in the very near future. Combined with our federal debt; absurd VISA laws for qualified, educated workers; and poor education system and you can pretty much say you’ll live to see the end of this (crumbling) empire. And BOTH sides of the aisle are to blame, this isn’t a liberal vs. conservative issue, both parties have spent INSANE amounts of money whether it was on wars and military weapons or social programs.
“This is double taxation. How can they tax the merchant for the sale and tax the affiliate for the same sale??? Some lawmakers are too stupid to fix their own problems by reducing costs so they try to double tax people. I don’t suppose they would ever consider a pay cut or doubling their own taxes???”
That is not at all what is going on. Go back up and read my earlier comment replies.
@ James: This is not going to be an issue with drop shipping because YOU are the one making the sale instead of the one REFERRING the sale. The best example I can give you is if you lived in Texas and you recommend to your friend in Oregon to buy a Ford Mustang and they do. Texas would petition Ford to pay them sales tax for the amount spent because you live in Texas and you made the recommendation.
@ Brian LaFrance: Well said. I will tell you this, I will be voting against every incumbent in the next election and I will be moving my business out of North Carolina ASAP. No more tax revenue for them.
@ Don: I’d rather not disclose the companies because they are all private companies (I’ve been doing this long enough that I don’t work with networks anymore). Bev’s office received my professional complaint and “first grade math lesson” that 7% of zero is still zero. I wish I could threaten to move, but it is too gorgeous here to leave.
“Oh, and btw, my wife and her immediate family lean to the liberal side. Of course my opinion is they only see the benefits of having a liberal government.”
There are benefits to having a liberal government?
You’re right Brian, they don’t realize it. And you’d better pray that they keep not realizing it. Politicians are parasites by definition. The less they know, the better. Just use your brain to get around their desire to sink their teeth in your neck.
As for offshore business, don’t just get an attorney–get a proven specialist, an expert. Would you go to a GP for heart surgery? Preferably, abroad. Ask around.
“And BOTH sides of the aisle are to blame, this isn’t a liberal vs. conservative issue, both parties have spent INSANE amounts of money whether it was on wars and military weapons or social programs.”
That’s like saying the thief who steals a pack of gum is just as responsible as the murderer who killed a dozen people.
Liberalism IS the problem. Spending on nanny state social programs dwarfs the money spent on wars and national defense, yet only one is actually mandated by the Constitution.
well, there is some truth in this, however if you reside in a different state there a legal issues, not to mention you will not be able to build any serious business relationships or credit with the kind of questionable legal structure you are talking about. D&B will eat you alive on this if not done properly.
my above comment was in reference to the person that said to just run out and form a Delaware corp. Possible, but not as easy as it sounds to do properly.
@ CPA Kid: That’s not how it works. Merchants don’t look where you are incorporated, they look at your phone number and where the checks are being sent, or the bank where the wire transfer is done. Bottom line, if they call you or mail you and the destination is the affected state, you are screwed.
@ Lynn Terry: Always a pleasure to hear your take and thanks for posting. Hope to see you next month @ SN Live. I spoke with my attorney for over an hour this morning. We are going to try a solution that he came up with, but I don’t know if I will post it publicly as I don’t want to have the “wrong eyes” see it.
@ Bill: That is a great (but sucky) story of the MTA taxes when you don’t live or work in NYC. That would drive me nuts.
@ Collette: Did I read page 270? Um, no. But thanks for pointing that out. That really, well, sucks. Charging sales tax for ebooks. If that is true, how screwed are many of us? I think it is time to run for the hills, no? Still down in Florida?
Do affiliates represent a physical presence in each state?
An affiliate is essentially a commissioned salesperson for a company. The internet question is irrelevant. If the seller (not the commissioned sales person) is in State X and the buyer is also in State X, the merchant must collect the sales tax. The affiliate’s commission–and the efforts he took to earn it–is not relevant.
As Lynn Terry said, what is being attempted is double taxation.
The solution, ladies and gentleman, is to no longer feed this animal. Do the following:
Register a company in Hong Kong and bank out of Cypress, which is an EU country (and works with the EU banking laws). When registering your company, get an anonymous credit/debit card from the Cypress bank and go from there. Neither Cypress or Hong Kong will work with the US authorities.
Of course, I am sure big brother now will have retina scans at every ATM soon so, I guess this won’t work either, LOL. Your rights are being taken from you! And no one is fighting for it! Sad days indeed!
Hi Jerry!
Just heard about your recent experiences from Lynn Terry. Sorry to hear that but unfortunately, I believe us affiliates are gonna be enduring even more pain down the road.
I’m from RI, and I’ve received some termination emails also. So I have an idea of what you’re going thru.
Oddly enough, most of them are from the bigger merchants that sell physical products, Amazon is one of them.
I’m relatively new to affiliating with merchants selling tangible products, so it hasn’t hurt me financially as bad as many of my online friends have been hit.
This “the affilate is a physical presense for the merchants” is a crock of …
But the “fallout” is STILL happening and I’m certainly concerned about what’s next. Soooo …
I too, have been talking with one of my “legal eagle” friends to have a viable option to pursue. The options are there but they can and most probably will differ for different folks. And they certainly NEED to get legal guidance before they do anything drastic.
Hope your legislators get it right down there, but it’s just too easy for them to just do it and then repeal it down the road if the courts later rule it unlawful and slap their hands.
I will be following your blog to keep up with what’s happening.
Best To Ya, Jerry!
Rick Wilson aka CorpRebel
Jerry, We are only supposed to be smart enough to work “for the man” not “for ourselves.” Those of us smart enough to earn a good living outside of the corporate system, really worry Gvt. as a whole, because we are outside of typical controls. This is just an attempt to regulate and control internet income in an extremely uneducated way. Lawmakers creating these laws, frankly, are not well-educated in how affiliate systems work. They are making laws to attempt control and regulation to generate more income for the states, not realizing they are actually putting business owners in their state int he position of moving to keep their business, and losing those taz dollars all together. The REAL question is, WHY? Because the states are going bankrupt – and making their laws based on that fear. Here is an article showing how many states are currently on the verge of collapse, it’s not just California. I would look for more of these laws going into effect as states seek ANY method to generate more taxes to save themselves. http://www.examiner.com/x-9341-Manhattan-Headlines-Examiner~y2009m7d1-California-five-other-states-face-government-shutdowns
J.J.: Register in the company in Hong Kong; bank from EU (Cyprus); and live outside the US–not in Cyprus or Hong Kong. Get a second passport while you can. Read the writing on the wall.
Jerry,
Living in Tax Hell – aka Oregon – hey new taxes? Get used to it. The liberals here find new ways to tax us every day. Our governor is delaying signing a new tax bill so ballot measure petitioners will have less time to get signatures to place a measure on the next ballot to get rid of it. What a man of courage and leadership.
Now that the liberals are in control you can expect more taxes like the Amazon tax and it will continue until these crooks get voted out.
As near as I can tell with my research, the tax bill in North Carolina was Senate Bill 311 and all No votes (only 23) came from Republicans. Maybe it’s time for all us incredibly sophisticated high tech people to rethink our political alliances.
The politicians who are passing these tax bills don’t care about you or your business. They care only about their own personal lust for more power. Everything else is irrelevant.
The overspending, the absurd laws, the poor decisions are the result of the politicians greed for power. And… the result of voters who were stupid enough to elect these politicians to office.
Scott
The Petition as shown in the blog post is to build a petition that will follow state to state to help prevent the bill to be passed. Although it state NC it will be carried to the other states. Help make it viral and hit 10,000 and we all might have a start to a fighting chance.
Hi Jerry,
I caught up on this news just this morning while listening to the latest Internet Marketing This Week podcast, and then I came home to find the email from you. And I to make most of my income from affiliate commissions. As I reside in Massachusetts I’m wondering how soon before it comes before the state house in Boston.
Despite the fact you’re facing a 40% drop in income you took the time to send out an email and I appreciate that from you.
Thank you,
Cliff
As a fellow NC resident this is something I have been dealing with since the end of last month.
It really is a living hell. Just as Jerry said, you wake up one morning and your state government is trying to put you out of business.
I have *personally* called all the bill sponsors in the house and in the senate and NONE of them have returned by calls. NONE! I have called all the members of the finance committee and the only person who returned my call, was my representative, who happens to be a member… I’m guessing he’s covering his a$$ for the next election season.
At this point, this only option I can see, is to move and my kids out of state.
Rock Hill South Carolina, here I come! … I just threw up in my mouth a little
Media brainwashed Americans keep thinking in terms of “liberals” and “conservatives.” You really don’t get it. You are caught between Scylla and Charybis, the plaything of those who manipulate you with just those stupid labels which switch off the brain and prevent you from seeing objective reality.
Jerry, thanks for letting us all know about this scenario. It’s another perfect example of how incorrect thinking leads to incorrect actions.
I am also sorry for the difficulty this brings on you financially. However, I know that you will use this as a “stepping stone” and not a “stumbling block” so that the end result will be for your greater good.
We all appreciate and respect your voice and honest opinions within the Internet Community.
I ask that you and everyone else, not allow this present and pressing scenario to negatively charge your mental and emotional energies. Doing so will have a negative impact on your immune system, your blood pressure, and numerous other factors.
Instead, clearly visualize a practical outcome that will open peoples minds to what is really happening and prevent this from happening again in the future. Then, be thankful and grateful for it.
Responding in this manner will put the negative charge in check, positively charge you mentally and emotionally, and enable you to clearly “see” how to truly deal with this scenario.
Strength and Honor to you Jerry
Robert
Jerry,
This was always going to happen. The Govt’s job is to grab as much tax as possible from as many marginalised groups as possible (groups with little political influence).
Unfortunately, in the current environment where almost all the Govts are broke or heading down that path fast… this sort of thing will only get worse.
Unfortunately, the only LONG-TERM solution is to move to a tax haven or some sort of a less intrusive country which rules out most English-speaking developed countries (i.e. US, Canada, Aust, UK, NZ).
Having said that, this may/may not won’t work for US citizens because you pay tax on citizenship… which certainly applies to income tax but not so sure about applicability of such state-based taxes.
It seems that these States might not be collecting the Amazon tax after all, if there are no affiliates left.
The noose will continue to get tighter…
JJ
Although I am not a resident of NC. I filled out the “Suggestion Box” form. You are correct. We need to stop this now. The states that have done this are also the states with the most mismanagement and fiscal irresponsibility. It amazes me how many people (voters) don’t have a clue about what is going on. They are not informed, do not connect the dots, don’t bother to ask questions, and just trust politicians to handle everything. Big mistake!
The government will take care of you from cradle to grave in certain places, but who wants to live in North Korea?
There are some good politicians. Well aren’t there? There must be at least one. Off hand I can’t think of any, but it’s been a long day.
Not sure why there are references to moving to Florida. Thank god we don’t have a state income tax, but we certainly do have sales tax and there is no assurance they wouldn’t do the same thing down here as well as I know. The state budget is not bankrupt like California, but darn close (which scares the heck out of me as my day business is as a contractor to the state). I can easily see the same blind logic happening down here. Our representatives have done some pretty stupid things in the past.
Hi Jerry
I live in New Zealand….. perhaps we can do a deal?
Alan
>>Merchants…look at your phone number and where the checks are being sent, or the bank where the wire transfer is done. Bottom line, if they call you or mail you and the destination is the affected state, you are screwed.
Seems there must be more to it than that though, otherwise affiliates in affected states would just do what newbie screenwriters living outside LA have done for years–they rent a “virtual” office complete with LA phone/fax #’s and just retrieve their messages remotely or have it forwarded and the caller is none the wiser. They even setup a physical LA mail stop where their mail is then periodically forwarded to their “regular” mail stop.
So, if it’s just the contact/mailing/bank location on record with the merchant that matters here, seems affiliates could just get one of these “virtual offices” setup in the “unaffected” state of their choice. Seems getting a bank acct in a state in which you don’t live shouldn’t be hard either…I set up a secondary one with an online bank and they aren’t in my state. You would then transfer over funds to your “regular account” as needed.
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At least I’d try it before I moved out of the country.
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Is tha a problem to affiliates that live outside of the US at all?
I already wrote in the same spirit on the Geno Prussakov’s blog, but wonder what people think about that angle of attack? How about a letter like this?
To: Honorable …
Cc: Local newspaper
Honorable …,
As a voting citizen I wonder, why does the State Legislature wants to rob our State budget of so much needed funds?
You see, I am talking about proposed Affiliate Tax, that become so big source of income for our State citizens that it have caught an eye of legislators as a potential source of budget income.
Every $1 earned by a NC affiliate and spent in the state brings about 4.25 cents to the state budget in sales tax once the affiliate spends it. And that’s not counting income tax he will pay. Then, it is paid by merchants to the local employees as a salary bringing more money, and once they spend it, adding to the state budget as even more sales and income taxes.
Proposed Affiliate Tax already forces some vendors to discontinue their relationships with NC affiliates (are you aware of Amazon.com decision?) It will also force many of affiliates to quit and seek other income opportunities or move out of state. As a result, we can safely assume that the taxable base may be reduced in times as a result of the Affiliate Tax introduction. In fact, in many cases it will reduce it to zero.
To put it simple, in effect, Affiliate Tax will significantly reduce budget income from this popular and important business in the North Carolina state.
Compare 4 cents and 0 cents. You don’t have to have Ph.D. in math to make teh comparison. Why State Legislature wants to rob our State budget of so needed funds in the dire times like now?
Sincerely,
…
Also, I am wondering if such tax has a viral nature like GNU Software License. Assume that NC afiliate creats a company in NV. Amazon has not way to see, that he’s actually NC resident, but from NC point of view that will create nexus that will force Amazon to collect and pay NC sales tax. Outcome? Can Amazon deal with ANY affiliate without that risk at all?
Thanks for the great comments and support everyone. It is most appreciated. I wish I could respond to each of you personally. Remember, this has less to do with the tax and more to do with the OUTCOME, which is merchants are cancelling accounts. Whether the tax is right or wrong is not the debate. The debate is what is the effect? Simply put, it will put affiliates out of business or force them to move. Either option is not good as it removes hundreds of millions in revenue from the state.
It is a shortsighted bill.
Thank you for letting us know about this law. We are being bombarded on all sides lately. It seems our local & national government would rather have us hanging onto their purse strings than making a living for ourselves. I could go on & on, but I’ll spare you.
I have signed the petition and sent a comment to the Governor. Hopefully she will stop this bill in it’s tracks and prevent other states from trying to pass something similar.
Hopefully it makes a difference,
Marilyn
I don’t mean to downplay the importance of this news, especially because I live in NYC and already had to deal with this, but the situation honestly reminds me of 2003-2005 in the online gambling industry (if you were involved with that).
Anyways, it could always be a lot worse as history has proven.
Um, why is the Obama administration being blamed for a STATE LAW passed in 2008?
After seeing this I wrote to all of the state representatives and senators for my district (figured no one else would pay attention)so far I’ve received a reply from all but 1 saying that they are opposed to this bill.
I even sent a message to the governor’s office. other than an auto response, no reply there yet.
As this has not been passed yet take the time and let them know how you feel BEFORE they vote. Let the Governor know as well- she has the power of veto just in-case it passes!
@ Virtual Office
>> “Merchants…look at your phone number and where the checks are being sent, or the bank where the wire transfer is done. Bottom line, if they call you or mail you and the destination is the affected state, you are screwed.”
Seems there must be more to it than that though, otherwise affiliates in affected states would just do what newbie screenwriters living outside LA have done for years–they rent a “virtual” office complete with LA phone/fax #’s and just retrieve their messages remotely or have it forwarded and the caller is none the wiser. They even setup a physical LA mail stop where their mail is then periodically forwarded to their “regular” mail stop. <<
I established an LLC a couple of years ago in my midwestern state of residence (to handle consulting work I do personally with clients mostly in my own state). To get a bank account in my business name required a physical address in the state. A PO Box wasn’t enough. I used my home address which is the day-to-day business office address. But you might try using the physical address provided by your business’s Registered Agent and see if that will work. You’ll have to pay them for mail forwarding, though which is about $150 a year.
I had also set up a DE LLC and was able to get a local bank account in the midwest for it by providing my home address and showing that it was the the business’s operating address (while the Registered Agent remained the DE address of the company that set up the LLC).
So it’s clear that you can have a convenient local bank account for a company incorporated in another state. Has anyone formed a business in a state where they do not live — and been able to open a bank account in that state based on the address of their hired Resident Agent?
Question for those who oppose sales tax. I certainly think it’s a mess, double taxation, arbitrary, etc. and treats different groups of buyers unfairly.
Let’s say every state decided to broaden the definition of “physical presence” or they all just decided to cut the middleman and begin requiring the collection of sales tax for every transaction involving a state resident, regardless of the merchant’s location?
It would certainly an administrative burden for every Amazon, Lands End, etc. to collect sales tax from every buyer, in differing amounts according to their location.
So what’s the alternative? (I doubt that suggesting all states simply give up sales tax revenue would get very far.)
One option would be to enforce the buyer’s tax obligation by collecting a social security number with every transaction. At the end of the year, the merchant would report the amount to the states based on the zip code associated with the SSN.
I could also see setting up a system where online sales carried some nationally standardized sales tax amount that every year got returned to the states based on some fair factor such as cost of living, population, etc.
That’s if we had to have a system where transactions are taxed at all.
In a system where no transactions were taxed, how would the revenue be collected? All through income tax? Would people consider it fair, once tax time rolled around?
(I’d personally favor that because sales tax is rather hidden.)
The way out of this situation is, as an affiliate, to create a virtual “you” in another country. It’s easy – I do it all the time. Well, not easy-peasy, but easy enough for anyone who’s motivated.
To register as an affiliate and also be paid outside the USA, all you need is a virtual office in another country. I live in New Zealand and Malaysia – yet maintain a virtual office in Australia. When I register as an affiliate, which I do from time to time, I can quote one of my virtual addresses.
There are many virtual office solutions – providing you with a PO Box, a street address, mail forwarding, even phone number (or use Skype-in). If the affiliate programme pays you by cheque, then such is simply mailed to your virtual office – when you have it forwarded to where you actually live.
Once you are deemed to be living somewhere else – not in one of the tax-offending zones – then your affiliate earnings are safe. And if you want to – you can even move your income offshore as well.
But that’s another story.
Jerry –
Got an idea for you.
David MacGregor is on the right track … but given the way statutes are constructed (broad brush) here in the US, anyone using a virtual setup would likely be at risk.
I live in Vegas (32 years) and I’m confident that NV will NEVER undertake this scam. As you probably know, NV is arguably the best place to have a LLC or incorporate.
Here’s a way to get right back in action and not only beat the Amazon tax — but also beat NC’s state income tax? Legally of course …
All you need is a friend in NV. You can use your friend’s address and legally claim it as your primary residence … and NC as your secondary residence. Just come out here and get a NV driver license and plates. DONE. All the better if your LLC is also here. Mail can easily be worked out — and you can renew your license and plates online in NV.
Check with your lawyer, but I’ll bet that there isn’t a damn thing NC can do about it. If I were in your shoes, I wouldn’t hesitate … and come tax time – I’d need plastic surgery to remove the smile while screwing NC out of state income taxes.
Dave
PS – GBP is the best value for the money that I’ve ever seen. Many thanks.
What JJ just said is right on the money.
I love affiliate marketing. I love what money can get me. But it’s time for people to start getting their heads out of their @sses and take a really good look to what is happening around them.
Things will only get worse as far as making money on the internet is concerned. This goes way past the level of just affiliate marketing. This is just one of many wake up calls coming our way very soon.
I bet you pretty soon that the government will start taxing every email we send too. They are already talking about regulating the internet as we speak also. And that’s their plan…
Us Americans take for granted everything that our founding fathers fought and died for. This has nothing to do with puppet politicians and the false right vs left paradigm. This has to do with elitist bankers who run the show from behind the scenes.
Don’t believe me? Here’s a quote from good ole Thomas Jefferson:
“If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their Fathers conquered…I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies… The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.”
I hope everyone reading this will step up to the plate and take a stand and do their part by signing this petition. This is getting way out of control.
Follow up … claiming NV as primary residence.
Just to clarify – NV has no state income tax. I got curious and checked NC’s rate. What a rip-off! *8.25%* if you make $120,000 or more! People with lower incomes are also getting screwed with 7 to 7.75 rates.
When it comes down to protecting your personal freedoms and business … NV may be the last state standing.
Jerry – If you use the idea I described above, your problem is solved without uprooting your personal life in NC. Other than that, just move here. In any event – with this dramatic loss in business – and a 8.25% income tax you could drop … it’s time to flip NC’s politicians the bird.
Dave
I signed this petition also.
And to all you conservatives who need someone..anyone except a republican to blame lets not forget who was in office when this mess started, where were your complaints then?
I am independent, which to a conservative is worse than a democrat, someone who actually votes his mind instead his party.
I am definitely becoming more anti-conservative every day.
Jerry,
This is so ridiculous! I signed the petition and I hope the idiots at the capital don’t screw it up!
Chris
Jerry, I’m really glad I came across the article. I have been talking about it all day, tweeted your link to sign the petition, and wish I had a legislator’s blog to bitch at lol
On a side note I love your stompernet content. Keep up the good work. If I open an office in Costa Rica I’ll have to hire you if I don’t learn all your strategies first
I live in Arizona. I’m really sick of the “liberal”/”conservative” buzzword crap. It’s not a matter of which party these politicians belong to. The problem is that most of them just don’t read the bills they sign into law. It happened here with the ‘alt-fuel feasco’. It happened in Washington right after 9/11. That’s how Bush was able to change so many laws so quickly — nobody read them before they signed them into law!
Maybe that’s what’s happening again. Nobody reads the damn things before they sign them and we (the people) get stuck with the aftermath.
And just to be clear about the economic mess we’re in right now, Clinton, a democrat (read that as liberal) ended his presidency with a huge monitary surplus. Bush (read that as a conservative) ran that into the ground trying to steal another country’s oil and punish its leader for trying to kill his daddy. Selfish reasons that were covered up with lies to drive us into a war we never should have started. (Those planes were manned by Saudis, btw. We didn’t attack Saudi Arabia, did we…..)
Can we maybe ship all of the lawmakers over to Iraq or China or even maybe North Korea? I think we’d be better off without all those jokers!!
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