I was going to keep quiet about this, but with all the emails going out about “The Arbitrage Conspiracy” … and how their “cart” is opening today at 3pm, well, it is time that someone who was actually there talks honestly about the program.
I will be giving my FULL review in my FREE newsletter later this week, so make sure you are signed up. You can go to:
http://www.webmarketingnow.com/ and the sign-up box is in the upper right hand corner.
Here is the brief review:
DON’T BUY THE COURSE!!!
Don’t get sucked into the hype. It isn’t real. I was there and I walked out after 40 minutes because the material was very basic. I even talked to many people (other solid CPA marketers) who stayed for the entire presentation and they said there wasn’t anything new, it was all recycled material from past systems.
If you want to really know how the CPA (Cost Per Action) market works and the DARK side of it, I will be coming out with a free course by the end of the year. No strings attached. I feel that passionate about this. This is another “launch” that over 90% of the people who sign-up will fail because it does not meet the expectations the marketing message created.
CPA is a tough business and you can lose your shirt if you don’t fully understand it.
Protect yourself. Bypass this offer and save yourself not only money, but a mountain of frustration.
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Thank you, thank you, thank you! For showing some courage and not just going along with everyone else, even though I know a lot of folks promoting this are friends and partners of yours! The way these launches go now it is almost impossible to get an unbiased review before the product sells out or all of the ‘bonuses’ are gone. So you plop down the money in order to see for yourself, and then they complain about the people who try and ask for a refund saying ‘there is nothing new’.
I look forward to your full review and free course later this month!
Care to comment on Howie’s new release “Super Affiliate Traffic”?
Jerry, thanks so much for your honesty. With the times that we’re in right now, you’re absolutely right – a lot of newbies will get burned especially the ones who are least able to afford it. Sometimes I feel that its all a big conspiracy – internet marketing gurus conspiring together to get our money in any way the can. Looking forward to your review and course, thanks again!
Thanks Jerry!
I was on the fence about buying but you made my decision easy.
Pretty refreshing to see….(gasp!)…honesty about a launch every now and then
Dam! I was going to buy. I should have known when the conference call had so much hype crap in it I could not believe. Also the launch site change from EST to PST in hour before the original launch.
I will signup for your newsletter, but I really want that free info this month.
Thanks Jerry, My BS detector went up when I first started to see this. I mean if this guy is making this much money per day, why in the world does he want to invite all this competition into the market.
Jerry:
I have always appreciated your honesty and integrity. This industry need more people like you.
I find it amazing that there are so many marketers who will sell stuff without actually using and testing the product.
And I also find it interesting that a lot of “Gurus” are singing the praises of this product, but very few of them are doing any CPA marketing.
Other than Drew Kossoff, I have yet to see any of these “Gurus” provide a “Before & After” pictures (”Before Aymen’s event I was doing X. After the event I did 5X”).
Unfortunately, this launch is heavy on hype and very light on substance.
I am really looking forward to your report. Thanks so much, Jerry.
Yah I thought something was very fishy here. Most so called Gurus just try to suck you into buying all of their shitty programs because seriously… If it was so great they’d keep their mouths shut about the whole thing… all of this.. oh I want to give back is just hype and a load of shit. These guys are into making money… and they are making money when you buy from their affiliate links… Why would they spend $10,000 to go to the seminar then turn around and sell it for 1/5 the price… something very fishy here… do the opposite of what all of these so called gurus are telling you… they are only out to get your money. It’s making them rich not you!
awesome!
Great info!!!
did anybody actually paid $10K for a ticket???
None of the gurus paid to attend and they stand to get 50% commission ($1,000 per sale). I was going to buy this, and still may in spite of the warnings, but clearly these guys don’t have a lot of integrity with the launch tactics they’ve used like delaying the launch due to “technical difficulties” (just like Stompernet) and claiming that he’s only letting in 700 people. No way these big name gurus are going to lift a finger for a piece of 700 people spread among 40-50 gurus. Anyway, if there’s so much potential here, and I’m not talking their crazy numbers, but if there’s $10,000-$20,000 month potential even after the market is saturated with thousands of new people competing, isn’t it worth two thousand dollars even if you get one or two nuggets that might make you another $2,000/month?
sale is $2000??? … is this what Aymen’s calling “Giving back” .. boo..
Jerry,
Thanks so much for the heads-up on this!
I believe you went out on a limb here to clearly state your honest concern about the hype – where I come from that is called Character, it’s a beautiful thing.
Can’t wait to learn more about your course.
I applaud you for your honesty and not following your guru friends. I laughed when I read their free report and listened to part of their call while working. Absolutely nothing new, little substance and all hype.
His techniques and terminology used and referenced in his report remind me of Gauher Chaundry’s pay per click formula.
Further, with high of a price tag you’d think they would be selling individual coaching or really advanced techniques instead of targeting the noob crowd who don’t even know what a CPA network or offer is or how to get accepted. I feel sorry for new folks the people who buy into this.
Jerry, that’s what I like about you… honest!
Take a look at this video I put together about the arbitrage conspiracy hype. Despite their “technical difficulties” I was able to their sales page:
http://timingwallstreet.com/arbitrageconspiracy.htm
Hi Guys,
This is first time I ve isited this site. First of all you are really good community out there. I like Jerry’s comments.
But my concern is if giving a negative comment for a product like “Arbitrage Conspiracy”, could be a strategy to stop other people buy and coming into competition radar. Jeery I am not questioning your comments as you seems to be quite honest from other people’s comments. Sorry I don’t know much about you. My appologies.
Please don’t think that I am encouraging to buy it.
After reading all your comments I checked the explanation of Aymen, on the website, as to why he is exposing his system to thousands of others, whereas he is easily earning around 50,000-100,000 per day. He could not give a solid reason. Please read it and give your views.Its right below the first testimonials.
c u guys with your inputs.
I was there in Vegas too and sat through the entire day. The first two hours were weak. Admittedly the first half day was just Ok. The afternoon got way better. How Jerry can say DON’T BUY without seeing the course and without staying for the entire day blows my mind.
Maybe Jerry is one of those “in the know” who just doesn’t want the competition for HIS business. Can someone say Scarcity Mentality.
Look, there’s tons of hype on this. Anytime you say $50 to $100K a DAY, there’s gonna be hype. But the truth is, there were plenty of big names there who were very impressed. Not because they are promoting. Because they got lots of useful information on how to ramp up their own PPC campaigns in a big way.
And for anyone looking to get into CPA, this course will get them a heck of a lot farther than trying to figure it out on your own.
Maybe Jerry didn’t learn anything new since he’s already doing great in CPA himself. But a newbie? Wouldn’t this be a great opportunity to learn about the business and get started.
Come on Jerry, you gotta start somewhere. Funny how your “Free Course” didn’t get announced till you got pissed off by these guys. Where was your FREE TRAINING before?
Thanks Jerry for your thoughts. I was interested in it but don’t have the funds anyway, so didn’t get it.
I guess, to be fair, there is not much that is “new” – usually it’s just the way all the components are strung together that is new.
Anyway, thanks again for having the guts to go against the flow with this one and speaking your mind. I’m really looking forward to what you’ve got to say in your CPA course that’s coming soon.
- Tim
Thanks Tom, I can’t comment on Howie’s new course as I haven’t seen it yet.
Quote: did anybody actually paid $10K for a ticket???
I heard a handful of people did.
Mike,
You make some good points in your video, but it is a good three minutes too long. You’re going to lose some viewers.
BTW, StomperNet isn’t tied to this launch at all. Brad did this on his own without Andy.
Way ta go, Lee. Telling it like it is. I’m PROUD of you, dude.
I’m getting so I literally detest ALL “big launches.”
Here’s a point to consider: if it’s really a solid product, it’ll BUILD sales from positive reviews AFTER people buy it, use it and like it.
If it’s a shaky product, the BIG LAUNCH is the best way to go. Lots of hoopla and scarcity and a mad scramble to not miss out…usually because the creators know going into it that the reviews later wouldn’t help sales at all.
There are exceptions to every rule but, generally speaking, major launch = greedy creators wanting to make a LOT of money FAST. Are these the people you REALLY want to trust to deliver high quality products AND service to back them up?
Dharmender,
I have nothing to gain from speaking out against the product. Unlike others, I’m not denouncing this product and then promoting another. The more you get to know me you realize that I don’t pitch. It isn’t in my blood.
The question is — WILL you make that or lose your shirt trying? CPA is a HIGHLY RISKY game.
“WebGuy” – if you want to be taken seriously, use your real name or at least an non-free email address. I had plenty of friends who stayed until the end and they all said they blew it and wasted their time. Others said it was worthwhile because they learned some new things … but then got pissed when I told them they were strategies taught in other courses.
Where was my free course before? It wasn’t available before smart a$$
… what upset me was the billing and how it didn’t live up to what it promised, pure and simple.
Thanks Andy posted in the warrior forum saying stompernet wasn’t involved and he seems like a stand up guy so I believe him. No reason not too.
Yeah, that was Andy who posted in the Warrior forum. He wanted to ensure people knew there was an understanding it is not a StomperNet backed product.
@Shay Yes, there were about 10 people that paid up to $10k to cover the 1-day seminar. This Seminar is an introduction to another world of marketing most of us conventional marketers don’t pay attention to and what’s there to come for the future of the internet marketing nitche. I’m going to try to finally start up my blog and give my take explaining the purpose of the Arbitrage Conspiracy. Whether it says it or not on the sales page, I’ll try to tell you why Aymen launched this product.
Thanks for the comments. I’m gonna have to go against the grain though and say that while I haven’t been behind the veil so to speak, I am super stoked about this product. I have been a member of stompernet for a little while and those guys are seriously cutting edge. This may be blind loyalty but if Brad is standing behind this thing, I’m all for it. Thanks for the info though.
Hi Jerry
Love your work at Stomper.
When is your free course comming out on this subject, i’m really looking forward to it.
Brett
I hope it works out for you Colby and Brett, I plan on releasing the course before the end of the year.
Oh my god!!! I’m a complete newbie and came so close to getting sucked into Arbitrage. Now that I’ve read everyone’s comments I definitely won’t be buying it.
I came across this site by accident and don’t really pay a lot of attention to scam sites and forums now because it seems everyone that posts anything has a hidden agenda and either doesn’t tell you the truth or has a link to there website/landing page.
But Jerry was right when he said he wasn’t ‘denouncing one product then promoting another’. It seems to me he doesn’t have anything to gain from having the guts to speak out and tell the truth.
I wish more scam and review sites would be as honest as Jerry.
Thanks for all your comments guys – it helped me to make a decision and save my hard earned pennies.
It would be great if someone could recommend an honest program to make money online for newbies. I’ve done nothing but read for the last 5mths about all the programs that say they are for newbies only to find out that a newbie couldn’t cope with it.
Hi Pauline,
Arbitrage is no place for a newbie to start. You may have never recovered.
Well Jerry West it is a damn pleasure to meet you!!! A dear friend of mine just sent me the link to your post after me ranting and raving at how disgusted in the hype and launch process of this product I was!
Someone’s video above asked if it turned people off or helped them want for the product even more… Well here’s my story. I put my baby to bed at an unusual time to listen to the call Brad organised.. The call went over time and my baby cried for 20 minutes whilst I put him off to stay on the call. I did that because I told myself I’d make it up to him with new knowledge, income and the resultant freedom some time down the track. I was excited although a little concerned I was being taken down a garden path but ‘wanted it all to be true.’
I set my clock for 3am local time after going to bed at 1am (usual time as I work hard to try and keep my blogs updated etc)..I discover the ‘come back in…’ page which really upset me. I set the clock again and got up for the new time only to refresh refresh refresh, nothing. My excited husband asking if it’s up yet, how much is it…what do we have to do!
Once the technical difficulties page went up I was flaming mad. I had lost sleep, I’d left my computer on all night, I’d put credit on Skype to listen to the international call (that was now on the site@!) and I was made to wait. Worst of all I’d affected my baby. I felt sick I’d been had. It was almost identical to the Stomper launch. I felt sick I’d let my baby cry. I felt sick for all the people who’d put themselves through similar pain. I felt most sick about all the gurus who’d sold themselves out to it all, the guys I thought were ‘honest’. Did someone really say above that it must be good ’cause all the big names were there?!!!!!! Oh gosh, maybe some of us did come down in the last shower, they’re exactly the ones who Brad and crew are targeting! Ask yourself this people; How many campaigns could you test with $2000?!?!??!!? A lot!!! How many people could you sell your ‘honest’ experience to on the $7 script!?!?! A lot!!! How good would it feel to actually honestly help people!?!? Great no doubt!!!
I proceeded to unsubscribe to Filsaime, Fallon, Comm and the gang. They’ve all lost me. I’m not saying there’s not a good product in this, but with the need to launch like that…sorry unethical marketing and I don’t mix.. Maybe I’m just not street smart to it all. Maybe ‘this is how it’s done’…. The industry sickens me. It’s time the ethical marketers band together. I have quickly had to tweak some of my blog posts and ‘undo’ recommendations. Some I have deleted all together. Never will I recommend a product again that these guys offer. Call me a moral madam but this is just off!
Anyways, this is way too long for a comment on a blog, sorry but I am VERY passionate about protecting people from s@#t!
Way to take the lead Jerry!
The big all star call was a butt-kissing exhibition of various gurus casting their approval of the newest guru in the club. It was sort of like each guru wanted everyone else to know he recognized the genius of the new guy before everyone else.
A few of those guys would endorse anyone with a new product to sell as long as there was a good commission. Maybe I’ve become a little jaded here.
One thing is clear to me now: those of us not on the inside of the guru club are the Soylent Green for those hungry, insatiable guys. I think I’ll remove myself from the food bin by unsubscribing from their lists.
Jerry,
For those of us who are actually doing what we talk about, you continue to amaze me.
It is not about the money for you, it is not about the status nor popularity in the marketplace.
You are really looking to help people to make a difference in their lives based on real world experience.
Continue the work my friend. This is what we are here to do.
- David Bullock
Hi Jerry,
Thanks, that truly was a breath of fresh air in an area that could really do with some fresh air!
Good work! Everyone by now should now the name BRAD FALLON and SCAM mean the same thing!
To Webguy… Did you ever think that the big name guys are friends of Brad Fallon’s and they are all in on the same scam! The bigger the name the bigger the scum. If this was true, instead of playing in vegas they would all be locked to their computers pulling in 100,000 dollars a day. Instead that jerk made a million dollars yesterday ripping people off!
I thought about it, how can that guy can sleep at night and then I thought probably just fine because he sleeps on pillows of cash. How he can even use his real name is beyond me. That guy should be in jail for publicly ripping everyone off but he has a disclaimer if you choose to read it. I hope the IRS rips him the new one he deserves.
It’s called emotional response marketing and these guys are hitting everyone at there lowest point. The economy is bad we all know that and people are desperate and these guys are a group of sharks praying on a school of minos.
If you bought into this then please give me a call because I got a bridge in Brooklyn for sale!
Keep your head up, work hard and make an honest living and don’t believe the hype!
I heard about this blog from a tweet from Lee Collins and at first assumed it was his blog. Apologies, Jerry.
Kudos to you.
I don’t believe for a moment there is NO value to the product, but I do agree the hoopla with all these “big launches” literally forces a ton of folks who should sit back, contemplate and see if it’s right for them rush into something they have no idea will really help them or not.
And I stand by my statement that MOST big launches are for products the producers KNOW won’t build sales and when word gets out will actually stop selling. So they push as many out the door as they can by creating a false buying frenzy.
Sad.
Thanks Jerry! With regular frequency the next new new thing get’s released and while I no longer get caught by them I still get frustrated knowing there is probably something of value at the core. Getting past the BS and Hype is so boring, and no, it isn’t compelling anymore, for that we need people like you. So once again thank you! I am off to join _your_ list
Jerry, you have no idea what they will be revealing in their 12 week course. They are not selling the “Las Vegas seminar” of which you walked out after 40 minutes – they are selling their strategy that works for them. I think it is safe to say it won’t be as “basic” as the free seminar you attended. No one knows what their stratgey is and what they’ll be teaching over 12 weeks. You don’t. I don’t. No one does…. To me, based on what I know about the potential of buying cheap traffic and converting it, along with their successful strategies, that’s worth investing $2,000. Sure, it’s possible it might not be worth it – but if I can get a few nuggets from someone who is that successful – it will be worth it! I can’tendorse the product and am not doing so – but I can say that based on everything I found through my research, my contacts and my experience lends me to believe that these guys are the real deal! Me – I want to hang out with them and do what they’re doing! I appreciate you don’t feel the same way. That’s OK! But don’t rain on my parade bro! You sound like the nagging relative that is trying to stop us from achieving uccess. Come on dude – admit it is possible! Aymen can teach people to do what he is doing – and at least SOME of the people will take action! Sure, post people wil lnot – but that is true with any course – whether it is free or costs thousands… me – I’m a doer and will succeed! HA! Sorry Jerry – couldn’t resist! Just having some fun here. I’ll let you know how it’s working out!
Mike,
That must be the lamest reason to buy a course in my view. Look, I’m not raining on your parade, you are doing a fine job all by yourself. Are you aware they offered affiliates a 5% extra commission if they mailed twice during the pre-launch and twice during the launch? And to top it off they also offered an additional 5% for a video testimonial sharing how “mind blowing” the Vegas seminar was. That is basically buying testimonials. Personally, I’ve never seen that ever.
I think Dan Thies said it best: “I am not a mind reader, so I don’t how many of the “gurus” present at the event had their minds blown and their games changed, vs. those who just wanted 10% more in their commission check.”
Wow, thanks a lot for the courtesy. I can’t wait to get on board for your course, thanks!
I am not trying to convince you or anayone the product is GOOD or that they are promoting it properly.
I am not judging the 12 week course based on that… It hasn’t been released yet… I can’t judge it or review it.
I made a decision to buy it based on my own personal research and feelings of what I would gain from it.
Jerry you said “That must be the lamest reason to buy a course in my view”
Huh… Lamest reason??? Why, because I don’t agree with you you’re going to get all snooty and say that? I did lots of research and it verified what is important to me… why is that lame??? Because I don’t agree with you? Sorry Jerry, but you are too harsh and emotional about this whole thing. I think it is a wise move on my part to buy the 12 week course. I’m not sure why you have such a big chip on your shoulder. Are you mad at Brad Fallon for something? I didn’t buy it because of Brad. I know WHO Aymen is – I know he is doing what he says he is doing – I know others who are connected to him who are doing well… Those alone are some solid reasons.
I’m not buying it based on the sales pitch or dreams of owning 6 homes in every county in Southern California (although it would be nice…).
I bought the course because I feel it is a good investment for me and 2,000 is a reasonable amount to risk based on what I know. I have a long list of reasons to hook up with Aymen and learn from him. That’s my goal – to learn form him. Not lame. You don’t know what the course includes so you can’t review it UNLESS youtake it. Sure, you can review the seminar – the promotional approach and all the stuff you want – but not the course itself because it’s full of info that has never been revealed. It starts tomorrow… I know these guys are successful and am confident they are going to show me things relating to how they achevied their success over the next 12 weeks. To me – that’s worth it. Learning fromm people who have success and experience is not lame. They are making huge money and it has been verified. You can’t dispute they are successfull. The “seminar event” in Las Vegas was NOT the course. It was intended to PRESELL/INTRODUCE the attendees on promoting it. I believe it was basic – they don’t want to reveal all the things they will include in the 12 week course… yah think??? The course starts tomorrow and NO ONE knows what it will be like.
Here’s my biggest issue with this launch: It was hyped by all the gurus that went to the event who then endorsed it although they had not actually been through the program itself. Why not?
So, why couldn’t they have first gone through the program, had some success and then talked about that? Why was it necessary to rush it out to the masses without benefit of first proving it’s value to themselves? Why do we have to gamble $2k to find out if it works? What’s the damn hurry?
I’m sick of seeing Fillsaime, Knudson, Casey, and the others in my inbox every other day with another “do it now before it’s too late” deal. Maybe it’s time for some guru push-back. I’ve got a case of guru flu.
I get Fillsaime’s newsletter. It just went up $10 per month. Guess what? It didn’t get $10 better than last month! So he’ll put a cute name to this technique and sell it as a new strategy, like The Butterfly Back-end Uppercut. In a few months he’ll offer it as a bonus to promote someone else’s launch.
Anybody else sick of this s**t?
Mike,
You’re right, I was too harsh, and for that I apologize. I don’t have an issue with Brad … he’s my boss at StomperNet. My issue is the way the launch was done – during a recession and most of the people signing up will be newbies, who can’t afford to lose the $2k. You can afford the risk. But the way the launch was done breeds the mentality of, “I don’t need to make $100k a day, $1k a day would be just fine.”
Well, that is still $365k a year, which a very small percentage of people in the CPA business make. They crafted their message very well so the “story in people’s heads” would convince them to buy.
I think part of the problem here is that “review” isn’t the right word since as Mike Liebner pointed out – nobody had seen the actual course when they made their recommendation or non-recommendation.
But as far as Jerry not recommending something he walked out on – he covered this when he sent out the details about why he doesn’t recommend the proudct:
“As I said in my opening piece on my Blog, I was there for Aymen’s video seminar and I walked out of the room after about 40 minutes due to the sheer basics of the lecture. I had better things to do that day … like take a nap. So how can I say it was garbage when I walked out so early? I had many friends who stayed to the end and my business partner stayed too. All hoped it would get better, and it didn’t. So I know everything that was discussed.”
So essentially UNLESS someone really knows Aymen well and has a lot of details about the course OR has FOUND out more about the course through their connections – then they must EITHER:
A) Is basing their recommendation/non-recommendation on the live event.
B) Basing their recommendation because they want affiliate commissions.
Unless there’s some “third alternative” I’m missing there, which I’m willing to believe is possible.
Just another worthless ebook. Move along.
Jerry – the advice is much appreciated. I am a complete newbie in the internet marketing jungle and “stumbled” across the Arbitrage Conspiracy. Admittedly, it made me salivate – but it also made me a bit suspicious. I tried to find some objective reviews of the program, and all I seemed to come across were affiliate sites plugging the program – until tonight, when I came across your opinion. My main question is, if the course really is not what it’s cracked up to be, how can they offer the “money back plus $500″ deal if you try it out and it doesn’t work for you? Obviously there will be the people out there who pay for the course and then don’t actually do anything with the info, and they won’t be eligible for money back since they didn’t actually work at it. However, it seems to me that with the incentive of an extra $500 back, if I bought the course, tried what they suggest, and wasn’t immediately successful, I would be clamoring for my money back in a heartbeat. Do you think they’re just counting on most people being lazy and forgetful and unmotivated?
Jeremy,
Here is the problem, and one they hope you overlook. In order to get the refund and extra $500.00 you have to do two campaigns per day over the 12 weeks of the course. So if we use “normal” business hours, that is five days a week at two campaigns a day over 12 weeks, or 120 campaigns. If you test with just $100.00 per campaign, you’ll run through $12k.
Since you are a newbie, and they state right in the fine print that you will fail more often than you succeed in the program, they never plan on you getting that far.
Instead of doing 120 campaigns, you might do 20-30, which doesn’t put you eligible for the $500 back.